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SailorJohn
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Post subject: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise  Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:14 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:35 pm
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Location: Blue Springs, Missouri
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I'm not ready to commit 100% to be there in May but the more I think about it the more I am planning on being there. Provided I am able to get my Laguna ready for the TX-200 (my son has let me know that the 200 is the priority).
Looking at the charts and Google Earth I'm not sure that I want to try single handing a newly built Laguna. I'm trying to see if my dad will be up to make the cruise with me, if so then I will definitely be bringing the Laguna. If not I'm considering bringing my Super Porpoise (14' clone fish). I'd have to pack light and strap all my gear to the deck but I'm familiar with the boat and she sails well.
I'm just thinking out loud here so please let me know what y'all think.
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TX-200 '08 - Busted
TX-200 '09 - Completed
TX-200 '10 - Planning
OBX-130 '10- Not gonna make it
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mmonies
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Post subject: Re: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:36 pm |
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John,
There are people in the North Carolina and east coast area either building Lagunas or thinking of building them. It shouldn't be hard to find someone from the area to crew with you in your Laguna. Ironman (Dan) is from North Carolina and he is a Laguna builder/member, there are lots of really nice people who come to Texas 200 or other events from that area who are good sailors. If you need crew, just contact some and I bet you will have volunteers.
Mike and jackie Monies
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Post subject: Re: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:59 am |
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John, I sure hope that you can make it. It could be a good shakedown before the Texas 200. Are you building the single mast option into your boat? I'm planning to single-hand my MikesBoat yawl, BUT I had last season to get used to her. Regardless, hope to see you at Cedar Island whichever boat you decide to bring.
Dave
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SailorJohn
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Post subject: Re: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:14 am |
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Yes I am building the single mast option. The only departures that I will be making from the plans are I have weighted my lee board, also I am planning on bench seating along the sides and I will be making an air box around the center mast position at bulkhead 11.5
I am a little concerned about the draft of the lee board on the Laguna. Looking at the charts it looks like the water in Core Sound is thinner then the water in Texas especialy around Dump Island. How much mud and muck is there in this area?
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TX-200 '08 - Busted
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OBX-130 '10- Not gonna make it
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Post subject: Re: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:08 pm |
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John,
A few thoughts here. The sides of the Laguna are pretty straight, and you can take the lee board and let it down only a few inches and I bet you would be surprised had how well she is going to sail through shallows. This is just based on other Jim designs I have sailed with the same type hull. Correct me if I am wrong, but this will be your first Jim designed boats?
It is not mud or much, all sand or packed sand for the most part. There are some areas which are obviously marshy, but even that is not really mud, it is more like hard marsh.
So let me ask you, are you really only bringing one mast and sail for the laguna? If you do bring it that will be two that we will have there. that means the first place that two laguna's sailed together will be in the OBX and not the T200! haha. Well at least chuck will be there. I will be able to sail with you for a day if you wish. Like I have already said I will nothave the time to prep and drive my boat this year so I am a jumping rides with people.
If you do bring the smaller boat there will be other boats with plenty of room to take some of your equipment. I know that "embers watch" has enough storage for two boats her size and we have taken on gear before for smaller boats.
Cheers
Paul
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SailorJohn
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Post subject: Re: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:30 am |
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Not only is this my first Jim's design but this is the first boat that I have ever built. I'm a gage maker (machinist) by trade and a little bit of a perfectionist. I'm used to small minute details and extremely tight tolerances; to have two pieces of wood be 1/16" different from each other is a sacrilege to me. So far I'm not too happy with the quality of my workmanship on the boat
I have two masts and will have two sails. Sewing the sails are my next project for the boat. I'm building all the "small bits" first so that when I'm done with the hull I'll be able to take her out and go sailing. I will also have the option of using just one sail in the center position.
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TX-200 '08 - Busted
TX-200 '09 - Completed
TX-200 '10 - Planning
OBX-130 '10- Not gonna make it
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Bill
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Post subject: Re: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:10 pm |
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Hello John,
Dump island can be a challange.....especially if you are tide challenged as well.
I was determined to reach it from the SSW the second time around and drove Embers Watch on hard in about 3" of water! was sure I could make it-NOT! So I spent the night out on the boat till the tide got back up.
The slope from most sides is VERY gradual, so even those who draw 12" or so can walk on up to the beach. It is a lot nicer than its name. I believe it is a privat island, but till they catch us and throw us off (which I doubt they will do if we clean up well) I think we are OK there.
I like to think of epoxy/filler as a wood substitute; so any joint closed up with it is almost an interference fit. Zero tolerance! That attitude should ease your machinist's mind. Otherwise, consider those less that perfect joints as reflecting your own not so perfect limb attachments and therefore a reflection of your own true self!
Well, enough of this...looking forward to sailing with you soon.
Bill
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Bill - s/v Embers Watch
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Post subject: Re: Laguna Vs Super Porpoise Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:26 pm |
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Bill,
do you not mean Dump island, per chance? john, I am sure your craftsmanship is just fine. most people won't be looking at your boat that close up anyway. Still, it will all work out.
Paul
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